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HTTP/1.1 200 OKDate: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:06:44 GMTServer: ApacheX-Pingback: http://www.themorningrain.com/xmlrpc.phpUpgrade: h2Connection: UpgradeCache-Control: max-age600Expires: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 15:16:44 GMTVary: Accept-Encoding,User-AgentContent-Length: 31306Content-Type: text/html; charsetUTF-8 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd>html xmlnshttp://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml >head profilehttp://gmpg.org/xfn/11>meta http-equivContent-Type contenttext/html; charsetUTF-8 />title>The Morning Rain /title>meta namegenerator contentWordPress 2.1.3 /> !-- leave this for stats -->link relstylesheet hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/themes/default/style.css typetext/css mediascreen />link relalternate typeapplication/rss+xml titleThe Morning Rain RSS Feed hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/feed/ />link relpingback hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/xmlrpc.php />style typetext/css mediascreen> #page { background: url(http://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/themes/default/images/kubrickbg.jpg) repeat-y top; border: none; }/style>meta namerobots contentnoindex,nofollow /> link relEditURI typeapplication/rsd+xml titleRSD hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/xmlrpc.php?rsd />/head>body>div idpage>div idheader> div idheaderimg> h1>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/>The Morning Rain/a>/h1> div classdescription>/div> /div>/div>hr /> div idcontent classnarrowcolumn> div classpost idpost-58> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/09/19/good-for-nothing-demo-part-1/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Good For Nothing Demo (part 1)>Good For Nothing Demo (part 1)/a>/h2> small>September 19th, 2007 !-- by Rich -->/small> div classentry> p>We’ve been sitting around for a while enjoying the summer, not getting too much done, but recently I was inspired by this song which was written by Des. What we have posted now is a demo version, and I wanted to set up my slide guitar one night so I grabbed that demo mp3, imported the stereo track into my multi-track recording program as the first two tracks of a new project, and fired away. Here’s a little demo #2:/p>p>div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/goodfornothing_demo_2.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/goodfornothing_demo_2.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>I just wanted to learn the song and rehearse on my slide guitar so I haven’t added much in this mix, and the slide was out of tune towards the end (more like I just wasn’t hitting the right notes. The overdrive tone, also, was not intentional…I plan on using a nice clean thick tone with a volume pedal, on the final version). I’ll post some pictures of my recording setup for the slide, later, but what I’m using is a 1950’s Fender lap steel, played with fingerstyle picking and a 3 x 1 inch bar of steel between the fingers. In this version I’ve just turned on two ribbon mics, one about ten feet away in the other room, the other closer to the amp but not even positioned properly (4 feet above the amp). I really just turned on the amp to play, and decided to turn on the mics, where they were, then eq’d the track quite a bit with a low rolloff from about 150hz down, to cut out rumble from an air conditioner and extra bass frequencies, and high rolloff to defeat some of the hiss from the mics being turned up so loud and so far away from a fairly small, quiet guitar amp. I panned the two mics out left and right, and then in the mix, I turned the far mic up and the closer mic down until they were fairly balanced, left and right. Once I get the chords figured out better, I plan to follow them more especially in certain places, but for now, just some experimentation./p>p>You might not be able to tell, but I also recorded a third part harmony in the chorus and a bit of extra harmony towards the end, just to hear how it would sound. Not sure where we’ll go with this song, especially with drums (if any), but wherever it leads, this little tune is probably my favorite track on the album right now. I plan on going through all of the songs over the next month and I’ll probably record some demo tracks along with the others also, especially Des’s songs./p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/good-for-nothing/ titleView all posts in Good For Nothing relcategory tag>Good For Nothing/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/slide-guitar/ titleView all posts in Slide guitar relcategory tag>Slide guitar/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/vocals/ titleView all posts in Vocals relcategory tag>Vocals/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/09/19/good-for-nothing-demo-part-1/#comments titleComment on Good For Nothing Demo (part 1)>2 Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-57> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/08/10/method-of-delivery-drum-track/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Method of Delivery drum track>Method of Delivery drum track/a>/h2> small>August 10th, 2007 !-- by Rich -->/small> div classentry> p>Des re-recorded drums, this time waiting until the second chorus to bring the drums in. At first, I wanted to hear more drums, drums in the first chorus; but realizing that we’ll be adding more instruments and re-recording the vocal and guitar, I think that leaving the drums out in the first verses and chorus — waiting until the second chorus for drums — will leave the song open for varying the dynamics of the song. Perhaps a hope to bring in each instrument slowly, in specific parts of the verses, choruses, to illustrate a dynamic song which has various stages of evolution./p>p>Here’s the latest take with rough (scratch) vocals and guitars, and drums:br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-drums-0703.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-drums-0703.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/method-of-delivery/ titleView all posts in Method of Delivery relcategory tag>Method of Delivery/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/08/10/method-of-delivery-drum-track/#respond titleComment on Method of Delivery drum track>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-55> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/06/05/method-of-delivery-guide-track/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Method of Delivery guide track>Method of Delivery guide track/a>/h2> small>June 5th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>Rich wasn’t happy with the tempo and feel in the original demo, so he recorded a new guide track for Method of Delivery:br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-nodrums-0601.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-nodrums-0601.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>I put together some drum ideas to go with this new version. It wasn’t meant to be a final drum take. Rather, I hoped to get Rich’s thoughts on which bits he liked and disliked.br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-drums-0601.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/mod-drums-0601.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>The conclusion? /p>p>Meh./p>p>Personally, I’m not sure Method Of Delivery even needs drums. But if we add a drum track, it will be much less prominent than most of what I recorded here. The drums definitely shouldn’t come in right at the start of the song. And Rich feels there should be more to the interplay between the hi hat and cross stick in the quiet parts./p>p>Two things we’ll probably keep:br />- The fills in the second chorus (starting at 2:03.)br />- The big, slow crashes at the end of each section./p>p>Note, too, that since this was a scratch drum track, I used a simpler mic setup. My T3 about 3 feet in front of the kit at waist level (this contributes most to the sound you hear,) 2 C4’s as stereo room mics, and an SM58 half-in the kick drum pointed at the beater. (More about the kick drum on Hometracked: a hrefhttp://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/05/using-reverb-for-a-heavier-kick-drum-tone/>Adding reverb for a better kick drum sound/a>.)/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/method-of-delivery/ titleView all posts in Method of Delivery relcategory tag>Method of Delivery/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/06/05/method-of-delivery-guide-track/#comments titleComment on Method of Delivery guide track>2 Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-51> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/05/05/nothing-up-my-sleeve-original-demo/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Nothing Up My Sleeve - Original Demo>Nothing Up My Sleeve - Original Demo/a>/h2> small>May 5th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>Here’s a demo of Nothing Up My Sleeve, written by Des. The lyrics are a href/lyrics#nothingupmysleeve altThe Morning Rain - Nothing Up My Sleeve - Lyrics>on the lyrics page/a>.br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/nothingupmysleeve-demo.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/nothingupmysleeve-demo.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>It’s an older song, but I just now got around to recording it. I have this nasty cold, and certain notes are off-limits, so I dropped the key of the song to F. It should be in G./p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/nothing-up-my-sleeve/ titleView all posts in Nothing Up My Sleeve relcategory tag>Nothing Up My Sleeve/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/05/05/nothing-up-my-sleeve-original-demo/#respond titleComment on Nothing Up My Sleeve - Original Demo>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-45> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/17/more-drum-experimenting/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to More drum experimenting>More drum experimenting/a>/h2> small>April 17th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>I played some more with the drum mic setup, and got a sound I’m happier with. Here’s better mix of Don’t Think I Don’t Miss You:br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-130407-newdrums.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-130407-newdrums.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>And here’s how the drums sound solo’d:/p>p>div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-130407-drumsonly.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-130407-drumsonly.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>I miked the kit with a modified a hrefhttp://www.gearslutz.com/board/low-end-theory/76502-best-placement-drum-overheads.html#post783935 titleRecorderman drum mic technique>Recorderman/a> setup, using 6 mics in total:br />- 2 Apex205’s as overheads (marked in the picture below with green arrows.) This is the “recorderman” part of the setup. The other 4 mics just augment the OH signal.br />- An SM58 on the snare drum rim (shown in the second picture below)br />- An Apex 210 on the kick drum, about 2 feet in front.br />- 2 Studio Projects C4’s as stereo room mics, about 15 feet in front of the kit, up high./p>div styletext-align:center;padding-bottom:15px;>img stylepadding-bottom:10px; srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumkitfront-041307.jpg altDrum Kit - Front View />br />img srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumkitsnare-041307.jpg altDrum Kit - Snare />/div>p>The overheads clearly aren’t “over head.” I have them on the same plane as the toms where they pick up a better balance of the toms and cymbals./p>p>Note, too, that I have a red pillow between the high hat and the OH mic in front of the kit, to cut down the hi hat level in that mic. Listening to the drum track now, I realize the hats are almost too quiet. (If you’ve ever miked drums in a room with low ceilings, you’ll appreciate that’s a good problem to have!)/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/dont-think-i-dont-miss-you/ titleView all posts in Dont Think I Dont Miss You relcategory tag>Dont Think I Dont Miss You/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/recording-setup/ titleView all posts in Recording setup relcategory tag>Recording setup/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/pictures/ titleView all posts in Pictures relcategory tag>Pictures/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/17/more-drum-experimenting/#comments titleComment on More drum experimenting>9 Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-32> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/15/trial-drum-mix/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Trial drum mix>Trial drum mix/a>/h2> small>April 15th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>The new baffles around my drum kit completely changed the way my room sounds. So even though I’ve mic’d the drum kit dozens of times, we decided it made sense to start from scratch and get the right sound./p>p>Here’s a short mix I sent to Rich for feedback.br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-120407-drumtest.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/dtidmy-120407-drumtest.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p>p>(The song is Don’t Think I Don’t Miss You, and it’s the same bass, guitar, and vocals as the original, with a new drum track.) I was happy with it at the time, but as so often happens when I listened to the mix a few hours later, I realized it wasn’t as good as I’d hoped. The snare drum is a little smeared in the stereo image, and the cymbals lack focus./p>p>We’re recording a no-messing-around rock album. We don’t expect to have a lot of sonic experimentation, or production trickery in the final tracks. So once we get the drum sound we want, I can probably use the same mic setup for every track. It’s worth it to put the time in now and get it right!/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/dont-think-i-dont-miss-you/ titleView all posts in Dont Think I Dont Miss You relcategory tag>Dont Think I Dont Miss You/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/15/trial-drum-mix/#respond titleComment on Trial drum mix>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-30> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/14/new-drum-baffles/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to New drum baffles>New drum baffles/a>/h2> small>April 14th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>My first step in achieving a consistent, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/13/start-with-the-drums/>reproducible drum sound/a> was to treat the acoustics of my recording space. The ceiling in my studio is low, at 8 feet. The room itself is spacious, so I get a nice open room sound. But the low ceiling means I still have to worry about reflections. The more I can tame the sound around my drum kit, the more control I’ll have /p>p>To that end, I enlisted Sarah’s help to make these baffles for around the drum kit. (Click each image to enlarge.)/p>div styletext-align:center;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumabsorbers-2.jpg titleDrum Absorbers>img srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumabsorbers-2.thumbnail.jpg altDrum Absorbers />/a> a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumabsorbers-1.jpg titleDrum Absorbers>img srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/drumabsorbers-1.thumbnail.jpg altDrum Absorbers />/a>/div>p>We (i.e. Sarah :-)) sewed doubled-over sheets into pockets which I then filled with a hrefhttp://www.roxul.com/sw18172.asp>Roxul Safe’nSound/a>. I hung the baffles from ceiling hooks drilled into the joists. Really cheap, and really effective. And since they’re hung from fixed hooks, I don’t have to worry about them moving and changing my room’s response./p>p>Samples to follow./p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/recording-setup/ titleView all posts in Recording setup relcategory tag>Recording setup/a>, a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/pictures/ titleView all posts in Pictures relcategory tag>Pictures/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/14/new-drum-baffles/#respond titleComment on New drum baffles>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-44> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/13/start-with-the-drums/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Start with the drums>Start with the drums/a>/h2> small>April 13th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>Rich and I agree on the importance of a consistent sound from track to track on this album. We don’t want to record a collection of singles. Rather, the album should sound coherent, as though recorded like a traditional album: In a series of sessions, in the same studio, by the same musicians./p>p>We expect this will be a challenge for two guys recording 500 miles apart, over 6 months./p>p>More than any other instrument, and especially in full-band arrangements, the drum tracks define the acoustic “space” in which a song sits. A small, constricted drum sound can make a mix sound lifeless, regardless of how much energy there is in the performance. Alternately a big live drum sound can pull the rest of the instruments out into the open. /p>p>Further, although Rich and I are used to recording our instrument parts to a click track, music usually sounds more organic when the band follows the natural push and pull of the rhythm section. We want that organic sound!/p>p>It makes sense, then, to get the drums sounding great before we record anything else. (This is how it’s done in a traditional album recording session, too. For example, read about a hrefhttp://www.hometracked.com/2006/11/16/ryan-hewitt-stadium-arcadium/>Ryan Hewitt recording em>Stadium Arcadium/em>/a>.)/p>p>I’ll be recording all the drum tracks for the album, so at this point, it falls on me to get miking and nail those drum tones!/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/drums/ titleView all posts in Drums relcategory tag>Drums/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/13/start-with-the-drums/#respond titleComment on Start with the drums>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-36> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/12/whether-or-not-original-demo/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Whether or Not - Original Demo>Whether or Not - Original Demo/a>/h2> small>April 12th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>Here’s the original demo of Whether or Not, written by Rich. You can also a href/lyrics#whetherornot altThe Morning Rain - Whether Or Not- Lyrics>read the lyrics/a>.br />div classembeddedMP3>embed srchttp://www.themorningrain.com/bin/mp3player.swf width300 height20 typeapplication/x-shockwave-flash pluginspagehttp://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer flashvarsfilehttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/whetherornot-demo.mp3&showdigitstrue /> span styleposition:relative;top:-5px;>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/wp-content/uploads/whetherornot-demo.mp3>download MP3/a>/span>/div>/p> /div> p classpostmetadata>Posted in a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/category/songs/whether-or-not/ titleView all posts in Whether or Not relcategory tag>Whether or Not/a> | a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/12/whether-or-not-original-demo/#respond titleComment on Whether or Not - Original Demo>No Comments »/a>/p> /div> div classpost idpost-11> h2>a hrefhttp://www.themorningrain.com/2007/04/12/wont-be-long-lyrics/ relbookmark titlePermanent Link to Won’t Be Long - Original Demo>Won’t Be Long - Original Demo/a>/h2> small>April 12th, 2007 !-- by Des -->/small> div classentry> p>Here’s the original demo of Won’t Be Long, written by Des. 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