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font-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top:0>              font size5>b>My DIY Repair of Misted Double Glazing Units/b>/font>/p>                  /div>					div styletext-align: left;>                    p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top:0>               /p>                  /div>					div styletext-align: left;>                    p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top:0>              i>font size2>PLEASE READ THE IMPORTANT UPDATES				a href#UPDATE2>BELOW/a> BEFORE EMBARKING ON A SIMILAR 				REPAIR TO YOUR OWN FAILED UNITS/font>/i>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>I describe on these pages a DIY repair for misted 				sealed double glazing units. The repair involved a fair bit of 				DIY work, but cost me a great deal less than either replacing 				all the window frames in my home or replacing only the sealed 				units./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>The existing glass, aluminium spacers and plastic 				parts of the failing sealed units were all reused, and the cost 				of the work was the price of glazing silicone sealant, moisture absorbing 				desiccant and some Stanley knife blades and windows cleaning 				materials./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					table border0 height128 width100% cellpadding3>						tr>							td width273>              p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>						font size2>i>BEFORE/i>/font>p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>						font faceArial size2>							a hrefImages/Misted.jpg target_blank>							img border2 srcImages/Misted-150.jpg width150 height268 longdescMisted sealed double glazing altMisted sealed double glazing hspace5 vspace5>/a>/font>p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>				font size2>i>Failing sealed double glazing unit - moisture 				induced misting developing between the panes.../i>/font>/td>							td width273>              p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>						font size2>i>AFTER/i>/font>p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>						font faceArial size2>							a hrefImages/Refurbished.jpg target_blank>							img border2 srcImages/Refurbished-150.jpg width150 height268 longdescRefurbished sealed double glazing altRefurbished sealed double glazing hspace5 vspace5>/a>/font>p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>				font size2>i>After the repair - misting gone and as clean 				as you make them....... glass, spacer bars and corner keys all 				re-used./i>/font>/td>						/tr>					/table>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>I cant say for sure what the life of the DIY 				repair will be - but given the huge cost of replacement double 				glazing I think it is worth a shot. Ive provided the 				information below on how I went about the repair for information 				only - not as a recommendation for others to follow - it might 				be of interest to other like-minded DIYers./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>After about 6 months all the repaired units have 				remained clear and without signs of problems - so far so good!./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2> 				/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top:0>              script typetext/javascript>!--google_ad_client  ca-pub-5829214616610540;/* DG Main Text */google_ad_slot  3935843452;google_ad_width  468;google_ad_height  60;//-->/script>script typetext/javascriptsrchttp://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js>/script>/p>					p stylefont-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0> /p>					hr>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>a nameUPDATE2>/a>UPDATE MAY 2014 /b>Thanks 				for the comments from visitors who have found the site of help!. 				A couple of emailers have made a point worth sharing. They have 				commented that general purpose silicone sealants do allow 				moisture to permeate - so the issue with my repair failures may 				still have had a contribution from inadequate sealing. One 				commented that commercial unit sealing methods normally use 				polysulfide or hot-melt butyl, and another suggested that using 				butyl tape to cover the silicone sealant may assist in the 				sealing. The latter emailer also suggested that trying to use a 				"neutral cure" silicone sealant would be better. I hope this will 				be of further help to anyone thinking about making their own 				repairs.../font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>UPDATE DEC 2012 /b>Ive decided in the end to 				go back to using professionally made sealed units for the 				windows. The re-misting that I described in the April 12 update 				has continued even with the re-conditioned glazing desiccant. It 				might have been better with new glazing desiccant (if I could 				get it in small enough quantities) but it looks like the repair 				method described is likely to be one of limited life./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>The re-misting is induced by heating by the sun and 				disappears again when the repaired units cool down - so it does 				still look like a desiccant moisture retention capacity 				limitation..../font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>The DIY repair might still be worth trying if you 				have a small number of units which are easily removed and worked 				on and can get good quality dry desiccant. But with my larger number of units in old frames Ive 				decided to replace them using the normal methods..../font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>UPDATE APRIL 2012/b> After about 12 months in 				situ some misting has returned to some of the refurbished units. 				This misting is different in character to the original problems 				however. It appears when the sun has warmed the frames and 				appears to be moisture released by the desiccant when it is 				warmed up.... Once the frames cool back down the misting 				disappears - the desiccant re-absorbs the moisture./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>After some further investigation it looks like this 				is due to the replacement desiccant I used. In particular it appears that 				the general purpose silica gel I used to replace the saturated 				glazing desiccant was not itself fully free of moisture. There 				is a remedy for this, but importantly the remedy can also be 				used to re-condition the glazing desiccant already in the sealed 				units. If only I knew this at the start - we live and learn!/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>More about the additional step required to 				recondition the desiccant a hrefsteps-4.php#Recondition>here..../a>/font>/p>hr>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: center; margin-top:0>              font size2>script typetext/javascript>!--google_ad_client  ca-pub-5829214616610540;/* DG Main Text */google_ad_slot  3935843452;google_ad_width  468;google_ad_height  60;//-->/script>script typetext/javascriptsrchttp://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js>/script>/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>BACKGROUND TO THE PROBLEM/b>/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>Twelve or thirteen years ago I replaced the 				troublesome single pane windows in my home with sealed double glazing 				units. Cash was tight at the time (new home and young family) and we couldnt afford to 				completely replace all the windows - so I measured-up and ordered sealed units 				and fitted them myself to the 				existing timber window frames which were themselves still in reasonable 				condition./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>It cant be expected that sealed double glazing 				units units will last as 				long in frames designed for single panes as they would in 				properly designed frames - however Ive managed a creditable 12/13 years from 				the sealed units on the sunny side of the house; these have only 				now started to show signs of failure and are starting to mist up 				(image right).. Most of the other units I fitted are still going 				strong. The cost of fitting the individual sealed units 				was probably about 5-10% of the cost of getting a double glazing 				firm to replace all the windows completely - so I think it was a 				good choice at the time./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>The question however is what to do with the 				units that are starting to fail. The cost of completely replacing 				the windows is still very high (even if I could find designs that are 				similar to the existing timber frames) and this seems to me to be a very expensive 				solution to the problem - especially considering that the 				problem is primarily a sealing issue. There is not likely to be 				much or any significant damage to the glass and spacer bars used 				in the sealed units. I could just replace the sealed units with new 				ones - but this also seems a complete waste of good materials, and 				introduces the problem of disposal of the failed units./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>I decided to see if I could repair the failed units 				- if this was possible I could re-use all the existing sealed unit 				materials, do the work in my own time when convenient and save a 				considerable amount in the process. /font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>WHAT GOES WRONG WITH SEALED UNITS AND A POSSIBLE 				FIX/b>/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>                    div alignright>						table border0 alignright height93 width155 cellpadding3>							tr>								td>              p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>				a target_blank hrefImages/Construction.jpg>				img border2 srcImages/Construction-150.jpg width150 height113 longdescSealed unit construction altSealed unit construction>/a>/p>				p aligncenter stylemargin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0>				font size2>i>Sealed unit construction.../i>/font>/td>							/tr>						/table>					/div>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>Standard sealed double glazing units such as those 				I have consist of two panes of glass with a hollow (typically 				aluminium) spacer frame sandwiched between them (the silver part 				in the image). The outer edge of the spacer is sealed during 				manufacture using a glazing sealant (the black material in the 				above image) to form an airtight barrier between the panes.  				The hollow spacer bar inner faces are perforated; the bars are filled 				with a moisture absorbing desiccant which is there to remove 				moisture from the air trapped between the panes. With the 				moisture thus removed by the desiccant there is no water vapour 				available to condense as liquid on the inner faces of the glass 				panes when the temperature drops - so the sealed unit remains 				clear in circumstances in which single panes would "steam-up"./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>If the seal fails for any reason (and it doesnt 				take much of the seal to de-bond from the glass to cause a 				failure) external moisture-carrying air can enter the sealed 				unit. The desiccant in the spacer bars will continue to remove 				this moisture, up until the point at which the desiccant becomes 				saturated and cant absorb any more water - the humidity level in the 				gap then 				rises and liquid water can start to condense on the cold 				inner surface of the glass. The glass stains and because it is 				on the inner surfaces, frustratingly, 				cant be cleaned./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>My tentative plan was to try and split open a 				failed sealed unit, clean the glass, replace the desiccant and 				re-seal the whole unit...... a much lower cost solution than 				throwing out and replacing the windows./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>                    p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>              font size2>b>IMPORTANT/b>/font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>               /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>					font size2>A number of important factors made it 					possible for me to attempt these repairs - and because 					window installations vary so much the approach I describe may 					not be suitable for all./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0> /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>					font size2>1. My windows were accessible - all my 					failed units were on the ground floor and accessible from 					ground level. If you have windows on upper floors it may be 					wise to leave their repair to professionals./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0> /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>					font size2>2. All the failed units were of a size and 					weight that made them comfortable to handle by myself. If 					you have larger heavier windows you may wish, again, to leave them 					to professional repairers./font>/p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0> /p>					p stylemargin-bottom: 0; font-family: Arial; text-align: justify; margin-top:0>					font size2>3. I knew how to remove the sealed units from 					their frames without damaging either the units or the 					frames. 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